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My Dear Lady Disdain
Onion. 27. USA. ENXP. Sagittarius, Virgo rising*. Liberal, feminist. I pull myself out every day.*supposedly doesn't believe in astrology.
Welcome all, especially anyone from Göteborg, Sweden!!!
pitselly replied to your post: headtrip-honey replied to your post: *SPOILERS FOR…
…reading this, i think the problem here really feeds into other problems? it makes sense now that they spend so much time with clunky exposition, they want the Cool Scenes to make sense, that’s their #1 priority.
That’s a good way to put it. They choose pinnacle moments and then make them happen, that’s why it’s called (IDK if people call it that, but they easily could I imagine) Event Television.
God, watching GoT and MM back to back on Sunday is enough to give me vertigo. The approaches of the two shows are soooo different, each season of Mad Men builds over the course of 13 episodes, and every episode is a cohesive whole, and there is logic between the regarding of each season as a unit (time jumps in between). The choices feel important and long-ranging.
GoT just feels to me more like “This happens then this happens then this than that oh btw meanwhile this and then these and those combine and stuff happens some more.
My Dear Lady Disdain: watermeloncholy: Oh here’s something I didn’t like about tonight’s... ›
I think this is a really tricky line. I think to TV only audiences (and the dudebros) it sounds like all girls are dumb and that’s obvi super sexist. But I kinda feel like as a book reader, you can kinda understand Arya a bit better and get why SHE IS saying it. She always thought that her sister and septa were silly for caring about things like songs and knights, etc. And also, she’s a little kid. I don’t know if this is making sense….
That makes sense, sure. It’d be interesting if it came off like an interesting peek into Arya’s psychology. But to me it came off more like a not-so-inside joke with the audience. Like, we’re all really thinking it anyway and Arya’s the one who voices the opinion and that makes her ballsy and pleasing.
*SPOILERS FOR ASOIAF/GOT*
headtrip-honey replied to your post: *SPOILERS FOR ASOIAF/GOT*
yeah I will be super intrigued how they’re going to do that. my only thought is since apparently Jaime was going to be executed the next day (???) she wanted to release him before he was dead to trade for the girls??
Yeah she did, and that’s part of why she acted so quickly in the books too (Karstark had tried to kill him in his cell; also Stannis was nearing Blackwater).
It’s just that in the overall picture you can see that their goal isn’t to make the character interesting, it’s to make the character more liked. And I wish that wasn’t their modus operandi, I don’t care a whit for popularity if it comes at the price of actually being, you know, interesting. I don’t care if people hate her, TBQH.
If they wanted to show her political side, maybe they shouldn’t have dropped the ball in the previous 16 episodes.
nobodysuspectsthebutterfly replied to your post: I don’t even think book!Arya was even aware of things enough to generalize a statement about “most girls”.
I’m pretty sure she does, actually, in the books. I’d have to go through AGOT but IIRC in the sewing scenes, not just a sibling rivalry problem. And rya does genuinely believe Sansa’s romanticism is dumb, it comes up a few times in ACOK and ASOS.
Arya thinks something like “Sansa would sigh a stupid sigh and shed a tear for love”, IIRC, but still that’s not about all girls, that’s just Sansa. I recall her being jealous of Sansa for doing everything right, but that seemed more about wanting to please their parents yet still simply not liking traditional female activities.
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The Stark thing is justice and the Tully thing is mercy and Robb is trying to be just like his father and it’s Catelyn who thematically NEEDS to be associated with mercy, that needs to happen before LS.
headtrip-honey replied to your post: I don’t even think book!Arya was even aware of things enough to generalize a statement about “most girls”.
It was so a dig at Sansa, too, it came RIGHT after the mention of Jonquil, which is like Sansa’s THING. Even though the show has ignored it, the context is still there.
Modern girls relate to Arya!
Modern girls are all Aryas!
Look at how deeply B&W understand the female of the species!
Oh here’s something I didn’t like about tonight’s eppy.
I can’t even express how much I hated Arya’s “most girls are idiots” line. Especially since it got a laugh from my audience. Brilliant scene with a stupid line.
GOD
ME TOO
I love those Tywin & Arya scenes (and I’m glad that finally the scharade is up, Tywin not figuring it out was bugging me) but
THAT LINE.
And how it’s played for, what, laughs? Cute factor? It’s supposed to make Arya seem smarter than other girls, other silly shallow stupid girls?
I HATED THAT FUCKING LINE. UGH.
It’s kind of interesting though how Tywin says she reminds him of Cersei after she says that line. Like it’s not a compliment in that sense because THAT was a pretty stupid thing to say. But I am probably giving HBO waaaaaaaay too much credit.
No, the comparison to Cersei is interesting, for sure, I agree. But I think they could’ve accomplished that without such a grating line, that seemed to be playing more for humor and applause from the audience than anything else.
I don’t even think book!Arya was even aware of things enough to generalize a statement about “most girls”.
It’s really just a sibling thing. Book!Arya does’t have lines against “most girls”, just Sansa and the specific things her mother wants her to do or that Sansa likes.
I personally never thought she was aware of gender enough to make a statement like “Most girls are stupid.”
tywinning replied to your post: TBH Riverrun is the castle of my heart.
Riverrun is probably the most like a home. But it hurts me that Casterly Rock doesn’t get a mention on this list.
Well we don’t know much about it! It’s seaside, which is nice, but it’s on a big rock, which sounds a little, uhm, rocky? XD
IDK we need to learn more about it, nobody really describes Casterly Rock. In lieu of that all I have to go on is my imaging what it’d be like to be a part of the Lannister family. And no matter how much I love them as characters, I would be sobbing with misery if I was ever a part of that family, at least the main branch.
TBH Riverrun is the castle of my heart.
Winterfell sounds lovely in an austere way, Highgarden sounds like a grand time, Sunspear sounds like the castle I’d buy when I finally got rich after years of working and saving. Storm’s End sounds dramatic, as does Dragonstone and Pyke, great places to visit for the experience.
But, oh, Riverrun. Stout and stalwart, proud and defiant, just try to wear it down just go ahead and try it. Ivy climbing the walls, water rushing through the waterwheel, the smell of spice in the godswood, trees as big as skyscrapers, silver streams, cool shade, warm days. It just sits there, watching the river flow by, not at all swept up in the current, just watching, enjoying the flow or withstanding the flood, just there in the middle of life going on.
Wouldn’t it be funny if they cast Indira Varma for Elia flashbacks and Kevin McKidd for Jon Connington?
Oh right, I had a question for Tumblr
Have been bussssy but I had a question I wanted to ask you guys.
You know how Robert uses the word “woman” about Cersei? Like, “Quiet, woman!” There’s something sexist about that, right?
But I can’t articulate it. Can someone articulate and elucidate it for me?
Because my brain is incapable.
